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Post by binnylou on Apr 10, 2022 17:13:39 GMT -5
Some of my snaps look really good and then there’s the others that may not make it to the show. My plan was to pinch the tops to try for a bushier, more robust plant. Now I’m thinking I should try to root those pinched off tops for increased numbers.
has anybody tried this?
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Post by gianna on Apr 10, 2022 20:27:23 GMT -5
No, but I definitely want to try it. I've done it with Zinnias for the first time last year, and that works very well. Think I'll go outside and see if any of my snaps have acceptable cutting material. I do have some seeds newly planted, but it will take forever for them to get large. Here is a video of someone making snap cuttings with pinchings (yes, spellcheck, 'pinchings' is a word, lol) from very young plants: www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUjvrdMhAYc
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Post by desertwoman on Apr 10, 2022 21:50:43 GMT -5
I have snaps that winter over if planted in warmer areas of the yard. They're suppose to be annuals here.There're a couple out there that are several years old. probably 6 or 7 years old. It's a miracle to me!
No, haven't tried planting pinchings. But now I want to try.
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Post by binnylou on Apr 10, 2022 22:40:03 GMT -5
I have had the Rocket snap survive winter in my flower garden, but that is a sheltered spot. When Pinetree quit offering Rocket seed by color, I quit growing snaps. I finally gave up and ordered the mixed package.
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Post by desertwoman on Apr 10, 2022 22:51:09 GMT -5
Yes- mine are red rocket snaps. Hardy little souls.
If you'd like, I can try to save some seed for you later in the season. I only grow red rocket snaps
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Post by gianna on Apr 11, 2022 9:30:23 GMT -5
Think I'll go outside and see if any of my snaps have acceptable cutting material. I went and looked... Currently my snaps are being ravaged by early rust. Going to have to take them all out soon. They just crash when they get very infected. I suspect the past week of 90+ temps and the winds did not help. I did however find 6 small side shoots with only 'a little' rust. Did trim them up and put them into a pony cell pack, and that into it's own personal humidity container (a clear plastic gallon water bottle with the end cut as a closing flap. I don't expect much because of the rust however. There're a couple out there that are several years old. probably 6 or 7 years old. It's a miracle to me! Wow. Amazing. I had no idea they could live that long. I once had one plant live for about 2 years. A dark red one, reminiscent of Black Prince. Narrow leaves, dark foliage, really pretty. My seeds get sown in August, get planted out in Sept/oct (aka, when they are ready), bloom their heads off over winter, then decline quickly and badly and are removed in the spring when the rust hits. Pinetree quit offering Rocket seed by color, I quit growing snaps. I finally gave up and ordered the mixed package. The past couple years I've sown both mixes of Potomic and Rocket. Last year the plants got mixed together, this year I kept them apart for no reason. I was disappointed by the low variety of color in the Rockets. White, 2 shades of yellow, a light and darker pink, and a lavendar. No orange/bronze, no red, no wine... It was very pretty, but also very bland. I don't remember what seed company was the source. I was looking around at individual colors at Johnny's and was shocked at the price for some of them. For a pretty hybrid bronze for example, they were asking almost $5 for 50 seeds. That's barely a pinch. So I've decided to collect my own seed from various colors of interbred Potomac and Rocket hybrid plants going to seed right now. I have no idea what the colors will be since seed from hybrids can be, uh, creative. But I've already collected about a million seeds  , and have planted some and will grow them in the coming months as 'one and done' to get a feel for the colors. Kind of exciting to see the results.
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Post by binnylou on Apr 11, 2022 9:36:01 GMT -5
I was purchasing the pale yellow, white, and soft pink. The yellow looked really pretty planted right next to a blue Salvia.
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Post by gardendmpls on Apr 11, 2022 11:11:18 GMT -5
I had no idea they could live that long. A lot of our annuals are perennials in their native climate. Even tomatoes can live 3 years or more in areas where the low temps are in the 60's, Frost is the limiting factor, along with disease. they were asking almost $5 for 50 seeds. That's ~ 10 cents a seed. Wonder what that would be per pound. Hmmm! Johnny's site says 193,800 seeds per ounce. That would be 3,100,800 per pound x $.10 each=$310,080. per pound. Gold price today is $1963.05/oz, which is $31,408.80 per pound Palladium price is $2594.33/ oz, which is $41,509.28 per pound Can't trade in Californium, but... Rhodium is $19,000/ oz which is $304,000 per pound, a little more than Snapdragon seeds, but you can grow your own snapdragon seeds, so that might be what you should invest in.
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Post by binnylou on Apr 11, 2022 11:22:25 GMT -5
desertwoman, Rocket snaps are hybrids, according to Johnny’s. Thanks for your offer, but I think I’ll pass. Wondering what changes when planting F2 ?
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Post by gianna on Apr 11, 2022 12:09:58 GMT -5
I was purchasing the pale yellow, white, and soft pink. The yellow looked really pretty planted right next to a blue Salvia. That pale yellow is one of my favorites. As is the Potomac Apple Blossom (white with pale pink lip). I want however the full, gaudy display. Mixes of a variety can be suspect. I think sometimes they just add what they have and you don't always get the full array, or in equal amounts. A year ago when I purchased Iceland Poppies from Johnny's they said their mix at that time did not include white. Good on them for saying that. This year it's back (last I looked). A lot of our annuals are perennials in their native climate. Even tomatoes can live 3 years or more in areas where the low temps are in the 60's, Frost is the limiting factor, along with disease. That's especially true of garden plants here in SoCal. I currently have so-called annual Scabiosa in their second year. As well as a giant tomato plant from last year laden with green fruits turning red again. Had one for lunch yesterday. A few years ago it was a surprise when my lima bean plants refused to die. If I had known they were perennials, I would not have planted them in the front yard, lol. These tender perennials however get sort of ratty looking in the second year and it's often time to rip them out. In a frost free Mediterranean environment like here, it's usually available water that determines life-span of these sorts of plants so they are functionally annuals and are generally treated as such. I had 2 varieties of Rudbeckia last year, as well as some yarrow and feverfew - all light perennials. They died however because someone did not keep them watered.
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Post by binnylou on Apr 18, 2022 12:57:53 GMT -5
It’s a week since we talked about taking cuttings, and the snaps are still waiting.
I did take the tops from a couple of cosmos, put them in disposable water bottles, and they have formed very nice roots from the cut stem and about an inch upward. That solves the problem of the cosmos getting too tall.
Gotta get to those snaps!!
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Post by gianna on Apr 18, 2022 13:15:12 GMT -5
There seem to be more flowers that make successful cuttings than I realized. So add Cosmos to the list with snaps, zinnia, and I saw a lady make cuttings from sweetpeas too.
I did take cuttings from 6 snapdragon plants a week ago. Not the best of material, and I've not been too careful with them. But they are not dead yet, so that's something. I just checked, and there are no roots visible coming from the bottom of the cells. They are in a small humidity chamber, and I mist them occasionally.
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Post by heirloomfan on Jun 27, 2022 14:25:07 GMT -5
These were volunteers that came up this year - the same variety was in pot next to them last year and they self seeded into this pot. Snaps are very hardy and they do seem to self sow without a problem. I like the very tall variety too that almost look like glads but they are hard to find. Saw one person who grows her flowers to sell, she did some early pruning of her flat of snaps she started, rooted them and got a full crop just from the pruning. This variety I think is called Tall Maximum mix and had several bicolors: 
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Post by lilolpeapicker on Jul 5, 2022 16:40:53 GMT -5
Do snaps need to be staked?
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Post by desertwoman on Jul 5, 2022 17:22:55 GMT -5
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