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Post by tbird on Jul 28, 2015 8:22:39 GMT -5
And how do you determine it?
I'm thinking for me, that it will be september 15th - so a solid 6-7 weeks left {and still no squash! >:^[ }
On the 16th - the average low overnight gets to be 54, with daylight less than 12.5 hours...
Previously, I always try to push it, but this year, I may be happy to move on with all I'm planning for fall.
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Post by James on Jul 28, 2015 8:45:58 GMT -5
In this high altitude area usually around the first week of September we will get a killing frost. Things will keep on going until frost. That first killing frost is what I call "End of Summer". It has been a cool summer here, I would not be surprised to see frost in August this season. 54 degrees this morning.
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Post by desertwoman on Jul 28, 2015 9:58:50 GMT -5
I don't plant a true fall garden, except for some more greens and my garlic that goes in, in October.
So all my summer plants keep going until the frosts comes- end of September/early October One by one I start cleaning up as the plants die out and stop producing.
I am always ready for the break.
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Post by lilolpeapicker on Jul 28, 2015 10:59:04 GMT -5
I don't know why this is but according to the zone map I am a 5 and that put our frost date at Sept 20 ish but over the years we don't usually have one until the 8th-15th of October most the time. But our springtime last frost date is around May 20th. It is kind of odd but I will take what I can get.
i have discovered though that most "summer" veggies don't really grow much after Sept.
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Post by mrsk on Jul 28, 2015 20:34:15 GMT -5
I have had it keep from freezing clear into October, and last year was one of them I think, we had some light frosts before that.
I think we will be early too, definite chill in the air this morning at 56 degrees. However, they had a foot of hail in Custer, which will cool things down, but today, we did not get out of the 70's.
I am going to try planting some things anyway... it is just a little seed
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Post by restless on Jul 28, 2015 21:39:05 GMT -5
Since I don't grow anything that I intend to harvest after the frost, I actually think of the end of my summer season when I start to pull plants that were put in the ground in the spring and are done producing...beets, carrots, beans, lettuce, basil, dill, etc, and start planting new crops or second succession that are intended for fall harvest...more beets, more carrots, more beans, more squash, more herbs, etc. For me this is the month of July. Some things in the beginning of July....some things at the end of July. July is always the transition month for me.
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Post by pepperhead212 on Jul 28, 2015 23:01:04 GMT -5
I plant all of those winter veggies in a hoop house, so I guess the end never really comes! Most of those get started indoors in late Sept.(they are pretty much fast growing brassicas, not the kind that need 4 months!). But the end of my summer crop is very late Oct., or early Nov., which is also when I plant my garlic/shallot rows. When it seems like a frost is coming, I pull all of my pepper plants, and harvest all of the full sized green peppers and freeze them. This is when my lemongrass gets harvested, too. In mid-Sept., I root some basil and Thai basil, and start some other herbs seeds, for my indoor supply of herbs. As soon as the low temps get to below 50, I have to trim my curry tree way back, and bring it indoors, and when it gets down into the 30s for lows, the same with the kaffir lime tree. I'm not even thinking about the fall crop yet, except, maybe, where am I going to put it?
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Post by gakaren on Jul 30, 2015 9:19:45 GMT -5
End of season?...which season??? I grow what you northerners would call summer veggies in the spring. I grow cole/cool weather crops in the winter. My late winter/early spring is your spring crops and then I do it again in the fall just later than many of you who plant a "fall garden". During the summers I grow what ever will stay alive in our heat and still produce.
Yesterday was 102º with 47% humidity which put our heat index in the area of 120º! Then we got a shower which dropped us to 80º and DH was afraid we might freeze with temps that low. It's been awhile since it was down to 80º before dark here! |
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Post by restless on Jul 30, 2015 9:32:38 GMT -5
That's my idea of torture, gakaren.  I thought summer in Philly was bad. I couldn't make it in the south east. |
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Post by desertwoman on Jul 30, 2015 9:42:00 GMT -5
I've always fantasized about living somewhere , where I could grow year round, but you just made it sound very unappealing!
And I have to admit, I'm finding I need the breaks these days.
Out of curiosity, in the summer "whatever will stay alive in our heat and still produce" -what crops are those?
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Post by kimmsr🕊 on Jul 31, 2015 6:32:21 GMT -5
That depends on where you are. For some, if the Average First Date of Frost is September 15, then your summer season ends then, but if that AFDF does not occur until October 25th your summer season only ends then.
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Post by ahntjudy on Jul 31, 2015 8:43:38 GMT -5
Like many here, I just leave everything growing and producing out there until the killing frost...
That varies year to year...I just watch the weather and harvest anything left the night before the frost is predicted...
There have been some years that it did not occur til November!
I do hate to see the tomatoes end...
I don't buy them ever...
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Post by OregonRed on Jul 31, 2015 10:52:37 GMT -5
august 15 I may put out my fall garden
end of summer is when it happens by itself -it's been different ea of the 4 years I've been at the CG
onions and garlic go in in October for spring harvest
my intention is to experiment with over wintering more things this year - we'll see......
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I thought summer in Philly was bad. I couldn't make it in the south east.
