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Post by OregonRed on May 11, 2015 10:48:12 GMT -5
what's an okay bet to plant in the same bed with squashes and melons? they always get powdery mildew (they live anyway, I just cut off the worst leaves - they're the oldest ones anyway)
last year I had basil in that bed, onions, chard and beets. most of the plants got shaded out by the huge leaves, then did okay after while, none seemed to be bothered by the mildew of the squash...
I'm thinking of: celery celeriac burdock (for the root)
what about radish, herbs bush beans
what about warm weather crops? - tom, pepper, eggplant...
not cucumbers right?
thanks!
Red
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Post by brownrexx on May 11, 2015 11:23:54 GMT -5
I think that giving your squash adequate airflow to keep the leaves dry is the best prevention for PM. It happens to mine in late August when it is hot and humid. The PM does not grow well in low humidity.
If I see some PM starting I spray the leaves with a baking soda/water solution to make the ph unappealing for the PM to grow. It does not kill it, but it prevents it from growing. |
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Post by desertwoman on May 11, 2015 11:57:17 GMT -5
;) I think I had PM once on a lilac bush
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Post by oliverman on May 11, 2015 13:21:40 GMT -5
Wish you lived closer. You could come dig all the burdock root you wanted.
If you prune and stake your tomatoes, that sounds good to me.
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Post by davidjp on May 11, 2015 14:24:18 GMT -5
I haven't had too much trouble with Powdery mildew but then again its so dry here. I did have some on some melons once but I was overhead watering and now I've gone to drip tape which waters around the base of plants and that seems to be a better solution. There are also some tolerant varieties Galia melons I've not grown this particular variety before but have grown galia melons before and they are really nice, I have this one ready to put out soon www.johnnyseeds.com/p-7325-diplomat.aspxCucumbers These are a really good variety that I've grown for many years and have not had too much trouble with powdery mildew but I suspect thats due to my conditions as much as anything else, although I note they are listed as PM resistant info.reneesgarden.com/seeds/vegetables/cucumber-baby-persian-green-fingers/ |
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Post by johng44 on May 11, 2015 14:47:48 GMT -5
Nasturtiums are really good and edible besides pretty, Icicle radish helps repel squash bugs and beetles.
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Post by octave on May 11, 2015 14:48:44 GMT -5
I am not sure squash and melons should be planted near anything else, since they seem to be taking up all the space available to them; however, these are the companion plants that are supposed to do well with Cucurbitae:
Onions, Garlic, Nasturtium, Tansy and Radish. Do not ingest Tansy.
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Post by kimmsr🕊 on May 12, 2015 6:10:25 GMT -5
There are no plants that will keep any other plant from getting Powdery Mildew. Understanding something about the disease and how it spreads is a very good start at control. There are several fungi that cause what is known as Powdery Mildew and weather conditions control when and where it might appear. Moderate temperatures, 60 to 80 degrees F, and shade are the best conditions for the spores to grow while wet leaves seen to prevent them from getting a foothold.
Changing the pH of the leaves seems to prevent growth also and is why both Baking Soda, milk, and Vinegar sprays work. Spend some time with this link, even though it refers to ornamentals.
www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/PESTNOTES/pn7406.html |
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Post by lilolpeapicker on May 12, 2015 9:57:51 GMT -5
I have tended to water my garden at night and I think I tend to get it because of that. I am experimenting with watering more in the morning this year. The nighttime temps are cooler so I get it despite the fact that I have sun in the garden almost all day.
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Post by canadiyank on May 12, 2015 14:04:16 GMT -5
My honeysuckle got it last year from some bee balm, that then spread to peonies. SO SAD! I yanked out the bee balm, then cut the honeysuckle back to the ground. It's not looking great this year. :( So far nothing on the peonies. I did spray it with some stuff from gardens alive but it didn't seem to help much.
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Post by brownrexx on May 12, 2015 14:40:25 GMT -5
I never knew that peas got PM but last year I grew a Fall crop and the end of the row that was in the shade got the PM and it slowly spread to the rest of the row. I used baking soda and water to keep the plants going long enough to get a good harvest and then I removed the plants to the trash.
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Post by OregonRed on May 13, 2015 17:56:45 GMT -5
okay, great!
lots of great info here!
I was more looking to find out what would 'survive' or 'not care about' the PM. I do nothing to prevent it, other than water the soil and not the plant. the squash and melon bed is 6' x 20', would take too much spray to maintain, I just cut off the old worst leaves, and the plants survive just fine. kinda like cutting the suckers off tomatos, the plant just puts more energy into the fruit. (I guess)
so i'll just keep doing what I have and utilize the space for extras of anything other than cucumbers...
thank you everyone
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Post by kimmsr🕊 on May 14, 2015 6:15:34 GMT -5
According to the UC-Davis article spraying a plants leaves can wash the spores of Powdery Mildew off the leaves and water standing on leaves can prevent those spores from getting a foothold.
Since there several strains of PM one plant is not very likely to get PM from another plant.
Some plants, Lilacs, cucurbits, Zinnias (for example), are just more susceptible to PM. |
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Post by brownrexx on May 14, 2015 8:14:23 GMT -5
one plant is not very likely to get PM from another plant. I agree with this if there is sufficient space between plants. If you look at time lapse photography of spores being released, you can see that they shoot out into the air and if a plant was close enough, they could land on that plant. Leaving sufficient space between plants is a good idea. |
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Post by OregonRed on May 14, 2015 10:49:07 GMT -5
okay, I understand, and thank you for offering up this information.
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