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Post by gakaren on May 11, 2015 9:14:39 GMT -5
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Post by brownrexx on May 11, 2015 9:49:19 GMT -5
I think that one reason so many kids in earlier generations did not have so many so called food allergies is that our moms cooked REAL food on a daily basis. They had gardens and McDonalds didn't exist.
With kids eating so much processed food today with so many additives, it's no wonder there are so many problems.
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Post by desertwoman on May 11, 2015 10:48:55 GMT -5
I agree. Pre WW2 food was organic and so much cleaner I think of my mom (born 1923) and how she ate through the later parts of her life as she embraced the convenience of modern foods. In my opinion, not a very healthy diet. I've always believed that in her formative years she ate cleaner, less processed, organic foods that gave her a strong foundation. Fortunately, she cooked for us and we ate a good diet until I was hitting teens years, when fast foods started booming, processed and boxed foods were readily available, which my mom- who didn't love to cook- was thrilled to find.
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Post by kimmsr🕊 on May 12, 2015 6:27:58 GMT -5
I have seen some reports that indicate there is a correlation between both the increased use of glyphosate and antibiotics fed to animals and allergies and other health problems. Unfortunately, and contrary to the thought that what gets on the internet stays forever, these seem to disappear pretty quickly.
Keep in mind that the Food And Drug Administration that Theodore Roosevelt established as a consumer protection agency has evolved into a corporate protection agency. Congress has also determined that the research the Department of Agriculture was doing in organic growing was of too little value to fund so that was chopped from the budget.
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Post by lilolpeapicker on May 12, 2015 8:18:25 GMT -5
I agree with everything here. We have had our food altered from the pesticides used in the fields some of which have been absorbed by the foods, and the chemicals added to our food, to preserve them from deteriorating as rapidly in our home and increase flavors to satisfy the diet and each company competing to better the next.
All my children and grandchildren have some form of allergy that was not in the family before. Allergies are on the rise, at least it is in my family. and asthma as well which often times accompanies allergies.
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Post by brownrexx on May 12, 2015 8:33:04 GMT -5
Pesticides, herbicides, anti-sprouting agents, GMO's, chemical preservatives, scented everything from toilet paper, air "fresheners", lotions, shampoo to fabric softener sheets (our parents used a clothes line).
It's surprising that we don't ALL have allergies!
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Post by SpringRain🕊️ on May 12, 2015 9:24:48 GMT -5
Kimmsr: "I have seen some reports that indicate there is a correlation between both the increased use of glyphosate and antibiotics fed to animals and allergies and other health problems. Unfortunately, and contrary to the thought that what gets on the internet stays forever, these seem to disappear pretty quickly" (quick quote isn't working again for me)
Given the changes I've seen in Google hits over the last few years, and given the sometimes silently aggressive role of censorship, it wouldn't surprise me if corporate donations played a role in removing hits that don't flatter their operations. Google is after all just a corporate entity itself. (On a side note, whenever I use the "Favorite" function to access Google, I get Microsoft's Bing instead. Hmmmm... I always knew MS was aggressive.
As to the allergy issues, remember the fellow who in an experiment ate nothing but Mcdonald's foods for a month and suffered health effects, even in such a short time? That was a wake-up call, for folks who were listening.
But there are also other contaminants: laser printers, radiation from computer screens (http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/ergonomics/home/products/computerfilters/), solvents in DIY products. At one job the laser printers were right behind our desks. Every time the cartridge was changed, I had headaches for a few days. There was also an incident reported some time ago of a worker who had severe reactions to off gassing from whatever was in the laser printer.
It amazes me how many people will paint with VOCs or use something like Febreeze or scented home products without thinking of the respiratory exposure. There's also off gassing from formaldehyde in building products, odors from carpets, particle board, and the list goes on.
Fortunately or not fortunately, most of these odors give me headaches, so I have to bundle up my face with a respirator, which actually makes it more difficult to breathe. Still, at least I may have to slow down my activity but I don't inhale the noxious odors.
And then there's the exhaust from cars... literally everpresent in any kind of urban environment.
It's not a wonder people are developing respiratory illnesses and/or allergies. Food is only one aspect.
And on the subject of organic food, after reading the article Oliverman referenced in the Vegetarian Hens thread, I linked to this article:
www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2015/04/28/sure-that-food-has-the-governments-organic-label-but-that-doesnt-mean-it-was-made-without-chemicals/.
Read it and shudder. Organic food for sale is not as pure as thought. It was a shock to read that:
"But under government rules, 'organic' food may be grown or processed with the aid of scores of synthetic substances, as long as those chemicals have been deemed essential." (My emphasis)
(No copyright notation on the webpage so I just directly quoted.)
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Post by lilolpeapicker on May 12, 2015 10:11:38 GMT -5
It is true that environment plays a big role as well as the food businesses to create allergies. We all use makeup and body creams, shampoos etc...and those have numerous chemicals as well...and which ones do our bodies absorb?? I do tend to stay away from makeup mostly....and I don't do body, and the like massages...but there are so many other things which SR mentions that I do use. And I use less and less of these things all the time which is late for having kids for me but maybe for my own betterment...and maybe health.
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Post by claude on May 13, 2015 7:01:42 GMT -5
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Post by claude on May 13, 2015 7:05:37 GMT -5
I believe that the link above has a lot to do with what is happening to our food supply. Although organic is not as "pure" since becoming part of big Agra it's a lot better than conventional as far as chemical consumption. So many more people are growing their own food and gardening...hopefully they won't buy into the miracle grow/pesticide marketing hype that is all around us.
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Post by desertwoman on May 13, 2015 10:20:21 GMT -5
That was a great visual to see how the levels dropped in only 2 short weeks.
I think supporting local , small growers is another step to getting cleaner foods, avoiding the big agra farm corporations as much as possible. But as you said, even the less "pure" organics is better than conventional.
What we buy for home cooking is just about 100% organic- from produce to condiments and everything in between. But we do go out to eat a couple of times a week and so we can't avoid conventional foods entirely. Just doing the best we can.
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Post by gakaren on May 13, 2015 13:29:14 GMT -5
Just read my siggy line....
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, and then you win." Mahatma Gandhi Our fight against GEO/GMO'd and our right to know!
Just LABEL the stuff and let each of us decide for ourselves. They do in other countries, no valid reason they can't do it here...other than to keep some of the population ignorant!
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Post by claude on May 14, 2015 7:02:37 GMT -5
I think that there is a general consensus that our government protects us..and there are good people within our agencies however money talks. Slowly they are seeing the light..there are so many synthetic unproven "food" items that are GAAS and in our food..from nano particles to symbo oils taking the place of real items and they don't have to be on the label? Because their basic chemical composition has been lab produced...it has become a war zone.
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Post by claude on May 14, 2015 7:08:01 GMT -5
I don't know how clean pre ww2 was DW..better living thru science, Seven ..or tho science for home gardeners, there was a lot of chemical stuff used on home landscape and food gardens later found to be carcinogenic...I remember the next door neighbors garage library of chemicals hap hazzardly stored all over...then thrown into the trash...we were so ignorant.
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Post by brownrexx on May 14, 2015 7:50:17 GMT -5
I think that most of that chemical gardening stuff started in the 60's didn't it?
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