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Post by desertwoman on May 14, 2015 11:24:58 GMT -5
I remember sprays in the 50's, but I don't know about the 20's, 30's and 40's. But I do know that post WW2 there was excess nitrogen from bomb making that the govt persuaded farmers to use, which started the high use of inorganic "feeding".
Also, so many farmers and home gardeners simply couldn't afford to buy chemicals and grew organically because it was cheaper and the way it had been done for so long.
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Post by claude on May 14, 2015 18:25:35 GMT -5
my Mom gardened organically...I remember the newspaper print OG magazine. The neighbor on one side had so many chemicals in his garage that we weren't allowed to go in there...they were on the floor, on shelves and the real bad ones were up higher. He was always dusting, spreading or spraying something and we would have to go inside.
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Post by gakaren on May 14, 2015 23:47:42 GMT -5
The only "chemical" I remember us using and this was in the early 50's, was the fly spray on the cows. It was in one of those old hand pump sprayers. My Dad wouldn't use DDT in any of his fields and we spread cow manure all year long as fertilizer on both garden areas and farm fields. The patch of garden where the tomatoes went every year got the chicken manure. Us kids got to hoe the weeds out of the fields!
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Post by claude on May 16, 2015 7:11:24 GMT -5
I watched a documentary that was made in France made me shutter...the purpose for the START of big Agra using more and more chemicals was to use up All of the chemical stockpiles that were produced during the second WW...many farmers in France were given a discount on stockpiles of "very safe chemicals to eliminate pests"...only to find that the distribution and use of them percentage wise were the cause of extremely high cancer rates..a cancer cluster." Let me see if I can find the link.. I remember the TV advt of the columbine driving thru the fields with the chant, Better Living through Chemistry.
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Post by brownrexx on May 16, 2015 19:07:19 GMT -5
Better Living through Chemistry I remember that slogan too.
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Post by desertwoman on May 16, 2015 19:08:35 GMT -5
Claude, what is the name of the documentary?
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Post by claude on May 17, 2015 6:06:39 GMT -5
I'm looking for it Brownrex. I watch so many of them..
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Post by kimmsrđź•Š on May 21, 2015 14:43:18 GMT -5
Along with DDT, insecticide, in the 1940's was 2,4,D, herbicide, and people did use Arsenic, Paris Green (copper acetate), Nicotine Sulfate, and a host of other natural and therefore "safe" controls that we know today are not. We have been poisoning ourselves, and our planet, for more years than many of us have been around.
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Post by ecsoehng on May 21, 2015 19:49:10 GMT -5
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Post by restless on Aug 21, 2015 19:27:22 GMT -5
Thankfully I do not have a food allergy, although eating more than a few strawberries gives me hives. I am very allergic to all types of grasses, most of the common weeds, and a few tree pollens. My allergies have done nothing but get worse over the years until now I have asthma related to my allergies. August through November are the worst times for me.
I grew up eating home cooked meals, some veggies coming from the garden.
I never had seasonal allergies until I had a very serious case of pneumonia in high school. The following spring, my seasonal allergies started.
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Post by desertwoman on Aug 21, 2015 19:45:37 GMT -5
rest- do you have the same reaction to organic strawberries and conventional?
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Post by restless on Aug 22, 2015 5:41:51 GMT -5
I don't know, DW. I have had this reaction since I was a kid. Eating a few whole strawberries is fine. Eating a small amount of jam is fine. Eating a whole bunch of strawberries == hives. I don't really poke the bear very often anymore. I would rather eat bluberries and raspberries anyway. The Dude sometimes buys a bag of organic frozen mixed fruit at Costco that has strawberries. If I get one or two of those in a smoothie, I don't fret about it.
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Post by desertwoman on Aug 22, 2015 9:34:16 GMT -5
The reason I ask is that conventional strawberries are on the 'DirtyDozen" for being the most contaminated and are one of the 4 worst on that list of 12. So I wondered if the pesticides could be aggravating your reactions.
They say that if we avoid the dirty dozen we reduce our pesticide exposure by 90%!
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Post by prunella on Aug 22, 2015 10:31:25 GMT -5
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Post by brownrexx on Aug 22, 2015 11:46:19 GMT -5
My allergies have done nothing but get worse over the years until now I have asthma related to my allergies. My husband developed the same kind of allergies when he was in his 40's and even had to use an asthma inhaler and rescue inhaler for attacks. He absolutely hated it so I convinced him to get tested and then take the allergy shots. At first the shots are once a week which was inconvenient but then eventually he worked up to once a month and after 4 years of shots he is not totally allergy free, but he is vastly improved. He still gets a stuffy nose in May but he has been off of the asthma meds for years and feels so much better. He has no food allergies and never has.
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