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Post by Mumsey on Aug 17, 2019 4:16:41 GMT -5
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Post by SpringRain🕊️ on Aug 17, 2019 11:07:36 GMT -5
I've wondered often how people can be so dishonest. Is it easier if they're marketing to unknown customers? Would they cheat their friends and family in similar ways?
I am glad he was discovered and caught; his fraud stains the industry. When I see so-called organic produce from the same producer's regular food, I wonder if there's really any difference besides the packaging.
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Post by oliverman on Aug 28, 2019 23:51:33 GMT -5
What concerns me more is how much verified fraud there is in imported organic grains, and there have been no criminal charges there. It is bigger amounts than this and it hurts both the integrity of the organic label, and the prices for us honest organic farmers.
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Post by SpringRain🕊️ on Aug 29, 2019 15:09:29 GMT -5
oliverman, I think the fraud in foreign goods isn't limited to organic foods. There have been so many reports of lead in Chinese products, including for children, that there's either some serious neglect of safety, lapse of quality control, or just plain lack of concern. And there's the fact that Chinese working conditions haven't been the highest, workers are perhaps pressed to work harder and less carefully. If there's lead in the products, they're exposed to it as well, but I doubt the Chinese government cares. I suspect the lead in Chinese products is perhaps just ignored, and that attitude of turning a blind eye wouldn't surprise me of alleged organic products from China. This isn't a country with leadership that cares for its people; power and global positioning seem more important. And it's obviously not the only country with that attitude toward the populace. Still, there needs to be more safety testing of Chinese products, but I doubt that will happen under the current US administration. It's not pushing for quality or safety.
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Post by davidjp on Aug 30, 2019 18:28:41 GMT -5
There was quite an interesting study in consumer reports a while back comparing pesticide residues in produce from different countries and overall risk levels. Its worth looking at. Largely US produce did pretty well but at times produce from Mexico was lower. I don't think anything from China was included www.consumerreports.org/cro/health/natural-health/pesticides/index.htm
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Post by Mumsey on Aug 31, 2019 4:33:14 GMT -5
davidjp, Great article, thanks for sharing! I've taken notes on the worst of the bad boys.
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Post by desertwoman on Aug 31, 2019 9:05:53 GMT -5
A great article and the chart is the best I've seen for determining which produce has the most pesticide exposure. I've saved it to my desktop. Thanks! davidjp,
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Post by SpringRain🕊️ on Aug 31, 2019 12:08:46 GMT -5
davidjp ,
I too was surprised that Mexico's produce is lower in many areas than other countries. And I guess I'm not surprised that gree peppers are one of the worst contaminated vegetables, and tangerines run a second close. I won't be buying any more strawberries either; I've known though that they're highly contaminated.
Anyone know if, in tangerines, the pesticide would primarily be lodged in the peel? Same with sweet potatoes? Thanks for sharing this very helpful and easy to use chart.
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Post by pepperhead212 on Sept 2, 2019 18:36:12 GMT -5
I remember CR doing a similar article years ago. Seems not many things have changed, as for the worst fruits and vegetables. It's interesting about how the different countries have some items terribly contaminated, while others are much less contaminated than the same thing grown in the US. I've always thought that some of those things that are more contaminated here are because whatever it is being sprayed on them is more expensive, and less affordable to them, but I'm just guessing.
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Post by tom 🕊 on Sept 2, 2019 19:17:25 GMT -5
It's interesting about how the different countries have some items terribly contaminated, while others are much less contaminated than the same thing grown in the US. I save the stickers on vegetables and fruits when they have a url and visit the websites. Years ago, using a sticker on a cantaloupe, I visited the website of a company in Central America. I was amazed at their sophistication -- one hears so little good news from Central America. They had their own greenhouses, a lab for diagnosing plant diseases, a clinic for the workers and their families, and a school for the workers' children. The cantaloupes were grown by drip irrigation from plants from transplants and protected by a special cover for the first two weeks in the field.
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Post by lisaann on Sept 4, 2019 18:16:39 GMT -5
amazed at their sophistication -- Did you believe everything you read on that website, or do you think it was just FAKE HYPE? How can we PROVE this is fact or fiction? I think we really need to visit and see! Who is retired and has time to travel and investigate this stuff? We need someone who will tell the truth! Mumsey , SpringRain🕊️ , oliverman , davidjp , desertwoman , pepperhead212 , tom 🕊 , reuben , gardendmpls, Tomato Z , heirloomfan , binnylou , and all!
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Post by tom 🕊 on Sept 4, 2019 18:39:14 GMT -5
Did you believe everything you read on that website Yes. There were no signs of deceit. But if you would save vegetable stickers and labels, and visit their sites, you would know how trustworthy they are, excluding such businesses as Jensen Farms.
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Post by lisaann on Sept 5, 2019 17:32:00 GMT -5
But if you would save vegetable stickers and labels, and visit their sites, you would know how trustworthy they are, excluding such businesses as Jensen Farms. What do you think of this company: www.villarifood.com/about/history/I just bought some smoked turkey parts to make a bean soup this weekend.
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Post by tom 🕊 on Sept 5, 2019 18:02:16 GMT -5
What do you think of this company It's an interesting site. I especially enjoyed the picture of papa and the three sons and the picture of the truck with a horizontal steering wheel. I'll be looking for Villari trucks on the road.
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