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Post by kimmsrđź•Š on Sept 15, 2016 15:40:43 GMT -5
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Post by desertwoman on Sept 15, 2016 16:55:37 GMT -5
This is disturbing beyond words. I am so grateful I do not get any vaccines.
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Post by brownrexx on Sept 15, 2016 18:21:25 GMT -5
I would NEVER recommend that people do not get vaccines. Vaccines are the reason that children are no longer afflicted with polio, smallpox, measles, chicken pox or whooping cough.
My unvaccinated grandfather died of tetanus when my Dad was 1 year old so he never got to know his Dad.
I do find it disturbing to hear this but it's not surprising. Our entire food chain is contaminated with this stuff so people who eat foodstuffs from the stores are ingesting it in that way too.
To put this into perspective, I would think that getting a vaccine would expose people to a lot less glyphosate than buying a dozen ears of corn from a farm stand or picking up eggs in the supermarket.
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Post by davidjp on Sept 15, 2016 19:59:20 GMT -5
I'd agree with brownrexx vaccines are one of main success stories of public health over the years.
If you look at the figures in the article we're talking around 2 ppb, that's parts per billion and that's in the ones that anything can be found. That's really quite a low level and for a one time exposure at vaccination I would seriously doubt there's any effect. I'd guess we probably consume more than that every day.
Also why is this being released before being published, that's not the way things usually go. Makes me suspicious that they are having trouble getting it published. If you look at the authors one is an independent research scientist and the other a researcher at MIT's computer and artificial intelligence lab and not in a toxicology, environmental area. Doesn't inspire a lot of confidence and tends to ring a few alarm bells. I'd wait to see a peer reviewed paper in a respectable journal before looking into it further.
It would also appear these guys have form so to speak if you believe this report
mrdrscienceteacher.wordpress.com/2014/12/28/glyphosate-pseudoscience/
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Post by restless on Sept 16, 2016 9:16:36 GMT -5
Also why is this being released before being published, that's not the way things usually go. Makes me suspicious that they are having trouble getting it published.
Yes. Exactly. As someone who has published in peer reviewed journals, it's highly suspicious to me. There is a reason that academic and scientific journals of all kinds have a peer review process. There is a reason that people have to defend their ph.d. thesis to an audience of challengers. I am tired of the dumbing down of the culture of the United States, the mistrust of science and educated people. The Internet has been wonderful for sharing knowledge and information, but is also dangerous as it allows misinformation and half truths and spurious information to be spread very quickly...the many lies about the dangers of vaccines, for instance. I hate pesticide more than most. I don't even use the OMRI listed stuff. However, I realize it is everywhere. Everywhere. It's sprayed. It drifts. It's carried around by insects, including bees. It's in our water. It's in our food. And in greater amounts than 2 parts per billion.
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