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Post by brownrexx on Jun 15, 2016 8:15:29 GMT -5
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Post by octave1 on Jun 15, 2016 13:14:11 GMT -5
Really nice article. Thanks for posting it.
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Post by lilolpeapicker on Jun 15, 2016 19:30:42 GMT -5
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Post by desertwoman on Jun 15, 2016 20:14:09 GMT -5
I didn't know about the drying either. It's disturbing. Grain especially are dried with it. Geez- I now I can't even enjoy a piece of good crusty bread at a restaurant without thinking about how that grain was treated.
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Post by gianna on Jun 15, 2016 21:21:03 GMT -5
Earlier in the year I was watching lots of videos about no till, larger scale farming and cover crops. A lot of the farmers were using 'herbicides' to drop the cover crops that were being used to improve their soil.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 6:49:33 GMT -5
So this brings up another question? Does that liquid stuff that they sell in hardware stores to clean your kettle scale/shower stall doors, etcetera contain glycophosphate?? Not that I use it. I use vinegar to clean my kettle and glass but I work in hardware and we sell a lot of it. So just think. If it is in that solution, not only are you eating bread laced with glycophosphate but your water for tea might also be flavoured with it.  Thanks for sharing Brownrexx. Save |
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Post by brownrexx on Jun 16, 2016 9:33:59 GMT -5
Does that liquid stuff that they sell in hardware stores to clean your kettle scale/shower stall doors, etcetera contain glycophosphate?? I would doubt it but you can check the ingredients list. Glyphosate is the chemical name so if it's in there, then it should be listed. Yes, many people think that the farmers who are going no-till are doing a good thing but many of them do what they call a "burn down" which means killing the cover crop and weeds with herbicides to replace tilling. I see that all of the time in my semi rural area and I hate seeing those brown fields. One ray of hope that I see is the tillage radish cover crop that many around my area have started using. Our cold temperatures in the winter kill the radishes so there is no need to spray them with herbicides to kill them in the spring. I also noticed at least one farm near my house has gone back to tilling this year. |
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Post by restless on Jun 16, 2016 9:53:37 GMT -5
There are several cover crop options that are winter killed. I'm not sure why farmers choose cover crops that are not winter killed. Just seems like more work to choose one that isn't.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2016 20:03:33 GMT -5
restless, No it doesn't contain glycophosphate now. All it says in the ingredients info is that it used to contain phosphates but no longer. It just made sense to me since the original company to invent glycophosphate developed it to clean buildup from pipes. But I see they've made it more user friendly in recent years.
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Post by restless on Jun 16, 2016 21:17:46 GMT -5
@bluelacedredhead, I think you tagged the wrong person.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2016 13:58:31 GMT -5
It was the Glycophosphate that did it. I'm soooo cornfused.
Sorry restless, didn't mean to bother you. I did in fact mean Brownrexx. ???
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Post by restless on Jun 17, 2016 15:04:41 GMT -5
You didn't bother me! I just wanted to let you know. |
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Post by oliverman on Jun 19, 2016 23:42:03 GMT -5
restless, cover crops that overwinter provide many benefits that winterkilled cover crops do not. Many of the legume cover crops do not have enough time to produce useful amounts of nitrogen in the fall after crop harvest, so one that overwinters and grows vigorously prior to planting time for the cash crop is very useful. They also have stronger root systems over the winter and into the spring which offers better protection against erosion. Also, if a winterkilled cover crop is used, there is ample opportunity for weeds to grow in the spring, so they will need to be killed somehow anyway. An overwintering cover crop will smother out most weeds, and is usually easier to kill than many of the common weeds, so less herbicide is used, even if it is used to kill the cover crop.
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Post by restless on Jun 20, 2016 3:28:15 GMT -5
Thanks for your perspective oliverman. It's good to read different opinions. |
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Post by brownrexx on Jun 20, 2016 7:04:55 GMT -5
if a winterkilled cover crop is used, there is ample opportunity for weeds to grow in the spring,
Like oliverman said, other crops may add more nutrients but I use the radishes to break up the clay soil and bring up micronutrients from deep in the soil. I do not use it to add nitrogen.
They are sometimes called "tillage" radishes because their main purpose is to break up the soil.
I see the difference between using radishes and a non winterkilled cover crop and that makes sense but the radishes did smother weeds for me. They were very good at that because their dead leaves covered the ground and the weeds did not grow. I was very pleased.
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