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Post by lilolpeapicker on May 22, 2015 16:24:03 GMT -5
I have mentioned before but not in any great detail that my cat tosses her food up alot. I have been taking her to a vet for better than 2 years now with bouts of vomiting before that. I have tried various foods but mostly a grain free diet. I even tried raw which she turned her nose up at and never looked back with a second thought. She has to get a steroid shot which lasts approx 1 month, shorter lately to keep her food down. The one thing besides cooking her food are the hypoallergenic canned food from the vet. But I really don't want to go that route if I can help it at all. So I am going to try cooking her food and see what happens. I am starting out with ground chicken and sweet potato. They are cooking as we speak. Sometimes I give her pieces of meat of what I am eating at the time but even that she is very fussy about only taking 1 or 2 pieces. Plays with it more than anything. Anyone have any recipes for healthy tasty eating? My honey Pecan
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Post by ncgarden on May 22, 2015 17:57:16 GMT -5
Our fussiest cat would only eat raw liver - I have horrible memories as a kid of having to cut up raw calves liver - blech!
My other fussy eater would only eat food that had gravy in it. Sometimes I could get her to eat canned food if I opened it and let him just lick the "sauce" off the top. But what he really liked was any meat chopped into bits and stirred with gravy, or thickened broth.
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Post by Mumsey on May 22, 2015 19:08:20 GMT -5
Aww, what a precious face! I would cook for her too. But not being a cat owner, can't help you out. Oh, wait! Maybe I can send you some fish carcasses! Cats love fish, right?
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Post by lilolpeapicker on May 22, 2015 20:20:05 GMT -5
Lol. She likes trout.
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Post by desertwoman on May 22, 2015 20:32:03 GMT -5
She is a beauty. Those eyes!!
How old is your cat, pea? Why the steroid medication?
I have been making cat food for my cats for over 30 years. Our current cat is 16+ years old and has never eaten canned food or kibble
She just started to have "issues" this past year with what they now call kidney disease (kidney failure) due t o her age. After a lot of research we have been treating her with supplements and herbs. When she is going through some "rough" days she'll start to have nausea/vomitting. We give her slippery elm and within a day or two she is back to normal, climbing trees, racing around the yard. And it holds her for several months. 1 tsp slippery elm 1/2 c water simmer for 5 minutes or until it becomes gelatinous. We give her an oral syringe full (3cc) before her AM and PM meals
My cat food recipe (was developed by a vet)
Into the food processor
2-4 parts ground turkey (cooked) 4 parts for kittens 3 parts for adult cats, 2 parts for old cats 3 parts cooked barley flakes 2 parts raw veggies (I use parsley and carrots) a little less than 1 part scrambled egg water for processing (at most 1/2 c)
(this will fill 3+ /1 pint containers I make enough to freeze and it lasts about 6 weeks (about 20/21 containers)
I buy 6-6.5 pounds gr turkey (using 2 parts in the recipe) 1 dozen eggs 2 bunches of parsley chopped 8-10 carrots grated (depending on size) 8 c raw barley flakes- cook with 20 c water
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Post by lilolpeapicker on May 23, 2015 5:39:42 GMT -5
Pecan is 5 years old but she start vomiting around 2. So far the shot is the only way she keeps things down. It is believed she has an allergy partly because it does works and for nearly 2 months. But it is only working 3 weeks now. They just gave me the name of a new vet who specializes in internal problems. I need to make an appointment.
Slippery elm? I haven't seen it used for vomiting per se.
Do you boil or fry the turkey? I am not sure she could have the barley flakes. Isn't that a grain? But the meat and veggies would certainly be good for her.
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Post by desertwoman on May 23, 2015 10:59:06 GMT -5
I cook the ground turkey in cast iron skillets. Yes, barley is a grain. Is it grains that she's allergic to and causes her vomitting?
The slippery elm was recommended on a site we visit specifically for cats with kidney disease. It has been so helpful for Grace. She's had 2 doses. We first dosed her when she was throwing up- about 4-5 months ago. Now, rather than waiting until she starts vomiting, we dosed her as soon as she started to not want to eat. Her appetite returned within a day (the second time was just this week)
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Post by brownrexx on May 23, 2015 11:06:28 GMT -5
We have also had cats with kidney disease. Our vet told us that the vomiting is due to nausea because the kidneys are not removing the waste products from their systems. Poor kitties.
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Post by desertwoman on May 23, 2015 11:32:04 GMT -5
Yes
As quoted "Old age ain't for sissies"
(though kidney disease can occur in younger cats)
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Post by lilolpeapicker on May 23, 2015 14:34:12 GMT -5
My girl is just a young cat. Vets say it is unusual for her to be vomiting as much as she is. One of the first things the vet said was to give her grain free food since cats really are meat eaters. But she continues to vomit regardless. She has been tested for other problems but nothing else has shown. Last night and today she is turning her nose up at the ground chicken and sweet potato. I am starting to mix it with other canned food that she has eaten. She walked away from it twice today. Poor baby! Soon she will start to stare at me wherever I am.
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Post by OregonRed on May 23, 2015 14:47:14 GMT -5
this is a long shot, and not cheap: I maintain an "animal communicator" she has helped in in oodles of situations with cats - even moving into the master suite of a home that had 2 7-yr-old cats , because their mom just died :( and on and on, I had a mean kitten one time, she helped me understand his perspective and me his, and we found medium ground, etc etc... www.chatswithanimals.com/she was a client of mine in san diego for a number of years... I also, as DW have been making my own cat food, at first cooked, and now raw best wishes - at least Cindy could find out how Pecan is feeling, as tho she were at the doctor and perhaps this would help 'diagnose'.??
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Post by desertwoman on May 23, 2015 15:14:16 GMT -5
When I was first making cat food and transitioning my cats to it, I was told to do what you are doing- mix just a little of the homemade food in with what they were use to (and liked) eating. Then gradually add a little more of the homemade over 2-3 weeks, slowly decreasing the old food that they liked, until they were finally on 100% homemade.
And if she walks away, at first, could you just let that be? A couple of skipped meals wouldn't harm her. She would get hungry enough, at some point, I would think!
The way my vet, at the time, explained it, we are trying to mimic what cats would get when hunting in the wild. He pointed out that cats actually do eat grains (pre digested) in the wild. If they hunt a mouse, for instance, they eat the whole thing, including the hair, whiskers, bones and the stomach full of pre digested grain (full of b-vitamins). Wheat bran could be a good sub for mouse stomach content. This could be sprinkled on top. (The bran also supplies the roughage and minerals found in the mouse's hair.)
I also sprinkle nutritional yeast on top-it supplies minerals, amino acids and vitamins. (It also repels fleas! My cats never have fleas) And they love it!!
I just can feel that this could be figured out, nutritionally.
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Post by desertwoman on May 23, 2015 15:19:42 GMT -5
Just read Red's post.
I have always been 'skeptical' of animal communicators until I saw a huge difference in one of my friends cats, who had some serious health issues that resolved after she consulted with a communicator.
And though, as Red said, it might not be cheap, neither are those vet bills. Wouldn't it be grand if you could get Pecan healthy?
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Post by lilolpeapicker on May 23, 2015 15:29:37 GMT -5
It would indeed be fantastic if she could get over this. That is what I will do but actually, I leave the food down for awhile. Then if she has food left in there, I toss it and when it comes time to feed again I give her fresh. I wouldn't want to eat food that has been sitting there for awhile, except maybe pizza. So I give her a fresh dish and food. I do think I need to reduce how much of the "new" food I mix in with the old so I will try that next time.
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Post by OregonRed on May 23, 2015 15:47:29 GMT -5
not to overwhelm you with information.... just reminding myself I guess - and glad the lady still has her web site up - hey, that's a good thing, right?! - www.catnutrition.org/recipes.htmlthis is the raw one I used to make. I did not grind my own, I purchased it from: www.hare-today.com/again, glad to see she still has her business up and running! I literally just typed these addys in by memory, and I haven't had cats since 2007
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