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Post by davidjp on Nov 7, 2020 17:41:53 GMT -5
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Post by breezygardener on Nov 7, 2020 18:44:05 GMT -5
Just enjoyed the first one. Thanks!
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Post by SpringRain🕊️ on Nov 7, 2020 19:54:54 GMT -5
Gasp, sigh!! I've never seen espalier done by tacking a branch into a brick wall, but that's interesting. I saved them but haven't figured out yet out to get them to run. I think I should have saved them in a different format. davidjp , thanks so much for sharing! I wish we were having a blizzard now so I could have an excuse to just stay inside and watch all the episodes. I'm wondering though if the article and the videos aren't already subject to consent so that they can be shared online, on the sites, w/o IP issues?
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Post by davidjp on Nov 7, 2020 19:57:54 GMT -5
I saved them but haven't figured out yet out to get them to run. I think I should have saved them in a different format. I just ran them directly from the site seemed to work Ok. I have a feeling at some point they will be taken down. I should really at some point get the DVD. The brick walls are important as depending on which way they faced they collected the warmth of the sun or not so it extended the seasons and types of plants you could grow.
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Post by SpringRain🕊️ on Nov 7, 2020 20:01:37 GMT -5
davidjp, they did run fine directly from the site, but I wanted to save them and peruse them at my leisure. A DVD sounds like a good investment. It would be nice if they would be serialized and produced in the English Garden magazine as well.
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Post by davidjp on Nov 8, 2020 14:10:05 GMT -5
I'm wondering though if the article and the videos aren't already subject to consent so that they can be shared online, on the sites, w/o IP issues? Am wondering if that maybe true. Its quite hard to find a DVD of that series now so the BBC are probably not actively marketing it. Last time I looked at it maybe 10-12 years ago the site I looked at was rapidly taken down and it said the BBC had contacted them. maybe its run out of copyright. I also looked up dailymotion which apparently is a french company and in the US has an association with the BBC so maybe its not going to be taken down anytime soon.
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Post by davidjp on Nov 8, 2020 14:18:45 GMT -5
If anyone gets to visit the UK, there's a great place that has tried to recreate as close as possible this type of victorian walled garden. There are quite a few others as well but this has done a reconstruction and its open to the public and well worth a visit. Its called the Lost gardens of Heligan. Its in Cornwall which is a county in the southwest. The gardens fell into ruin at the turn of the 1st world war when of the 22 gardeners employed there 16 died on the western front. But in the 1980's it was rediscovered and brought back into some semblance of how it might have been. They made a nice documentary about it which is available on amazon prime it looks like www.heligan.com/explore/gardens/productive-gardenswww.amazon.com/Lost-Gardens-Heligan-Tom-Petherick/dp/B08FTDPD6C
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Post by Wheelgarden on Nov 8, 2020 16:51:38 GMT -5
England's "green and pleasant land"...beautiful.
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Post by tom 🕊 on Nov 8, 2020 19:42:24 GMT -5
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Post by tom 🕊 on Nov 8, 2020 20:19:29 GMT -5
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Post by emmsmommy on Nov 9, 2020 10:19:55 GMT -5
davidjp , I love this series! I won a lot of books on eBay this spring, some of which were based on this series. I did look into the DVD but it doesn't seem to be available in Region 1 format for US players. It was at one time on YouTube as well. There was another BBC series with Harry Dodson in the same location, but it dealt with wartime gardens. I know it started with the ornamentals being pulled up and put in a pile to be burnt so the land could be used for food. Edit: There were three other series which spawned from this one: The Victorian Kitchen, The Victorian Flower Garden and The Wartime Kitchen and Garden. I know the last one is still on YouTube, but not sure about the first two. If you haven't already, check out the BBC series starring Ruth Goodman. There were many of these from different time periods. They are all reality series in which the actors actually do something. My favorite of these is Wartime Farm, probably because I grew up hearing stories about the Depression.
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Post by davidjp on Nov 9, 2020 12:29:40 GMT -5
If you haven't already, check out the BBC series starring Ruth Goodman. I have seen at least some of those but probably never a full series. There are a lot out there. I think they are excellent and Ruth Goodman is very good at it and obviously really enthused all the time. The only thing that slightly puts me off her is that shes almost too good, she seems to really put herself into it and is obviously enjoying the whole experience. To the point that whenever theres another twist in how life was lived that seems fairly dire, she seems happier the worse things get. But really thats hardly a criticism and she does a fantastic job of it all.
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Post by davidjp on Nov 9, 2020 12:49:35 GMT -5
A history of the Tremayne family. There is no clean explanation as to why John Claude Lewis ("Jack") Tremayne's wife was excluded in his father's will, or why he deserted her, abandoned the garden at Heligan, and fled to Italy. Inquiring minds want to know. What was the serpent in the garden? Who knows what happened, probably a juicy story behind it all. I know the property is still owned by a descendent of the Tremayne family which after nearly 400 years is quite an achievement. If you like aristocractic intrigue theres lots of interesting stories, as I'm sure you know. This house below is now a shell and very close to where I was brought up. I used to walk beside the walled gardens every day on my way to school, you can still see all the nails hammered into the 15 ft walls used to train fruit. It was finally destroyed by a German plane that dropped a sea mine very close to the facade on its way to crashing into the hills behind the house presumably having been shot down by the RAF. The explosion caved in the roof and smashed all the windows and it was never properly repaired. I think however it had long fallen into a somewhat parlous state and if you read the story below you'll get an idea of why. The story behind it all is fascinating, a mix of a very scandalous divorce case and an interesting connection to the American revolution . And recently made into a TV drama. h2g2.com/entry/A87788083 www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/aug/17/scandalous-lady-w
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Post by emmsmommy on Nov 9, 2020 18:23:38 GMT -5
davidjp , yes Ruth Goodman seems to really enjoy her work. It took a few episodes for me to get used to her, but after that I was eager to catch another series. Added the Heligan documentary to my watch list and hope to download it to my iPad tonight.
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Post by Mumsey on Nov 10, 2020 4:18:08 GMT -5
davidjp, What a wonderful house/mansion that must have been in it's day! If walls could talk.....
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