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Grapes
Aug 15, 2019 20:48:13 GMT -5
Post by octave1 on Aug 15, 2019 20:48:13 GMT -5
Grapes do well in really hot areas like Southern Europe and Greece, and being native to the Mediterranean and Central Asia, they should not be a crop that suffers from prolonged heat spells. Grapes generally require a hot and dry climate where temperatures range from 60-105˚ F. The climate should experience mild winters, little humidity and limited annual rainfall. If your home is not in this type of climate, your grapes may not thrive. I think therefore that they may be small this year for for reasons other than heat.
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Post by desertwoman on Aug 15, 2019 20:48:23 GMT -5
We talk to the birds regarding our fruit trees. We tell them they can have the top third of the tree to feast on and to leave the bottom 2/3 for us. It has worked out well for many many years.
I don't mind if the animals/birds want to eat some of my crop- they just can't have all of it. Fencing has worked well for me.
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Grapes
Aug 15, 2019 23:05:25 GMT -5
Post by SpringRain🕊️ on Aug 15, 2019 23:05:25 GMT -5
desertwoman, I like the idea that you and the birds have arrived at a compromise!
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Post by gardendmpls on Aug 16, 2019 6:15:10 GMT -5
"humans have been trespassing and encroaching on their territories"
Actually, humans are not excluded from being part of nature and are part of the ecosystem. Territories is a way to describe where an animal hangs out. A mountain lion's territory is also a deer' territory and a rabbit's and a fox's. Is the mountain lion encroaching on the deer territory? Do we say "Oh no, the fox invaded the rabbits' territory and ate a rabbit". Humans are part of the ecosystem and need to live and eat, too. Difference is, we are able to have concern for the others in our system and can make choices to co-exist.
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Post by James on Aug 16, 2019 8:35:05 GMT -5
"I don't see why we can't learn to live with animals even if they do want to dine on our crops. "
Ya, just quit planting a garden. Go to the grocery store instead. Easy fix? Only one problem, the fellers growing the stuff found in the grocery stores are still having to fight with the wildlife to bring us a product. The fact is: You have to defend what is yours if you wish to keep it.
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Post by Wheelgarden on Nov 10, 2019 17:24:14 GMT -5
SpringRain🕊️, my next-door neighbor and I were just talking about that. Our wildlife is abundant here, and we resign ourselves to a bit of attrition, as far as we can share with the critters. Kinda-sorta. He brought us three well-established Catawba grape rootstocks, so we stuck them in the ground, of course. I'll now have more grapes than I know what to do with. Neighbor said, "Maybe all the deer and turkeys will start moving over here and away from me now!"...DS winked and replied, "I see what you're trying to do!"
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Grapes
Nov 13, 2019 13:13:30 GMT -5
Post by James on Nov 13, 2019 13:13:30 GMT -5
Sounds like some of you would rather let the critters have your crop. OK so be it. If you don't want to fix the problem, go without!
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Grapes
Nov 13, 2019 14:32:56 GMT -5
Post by SpringRain🕊️ on Nov 13, 2019 14:32:56 GMT -5
Some of us respect animals and recognize that we have to remember they're residents of this earth as well as humans. Learning to share is learning how to live in co-existence with others, whether human or animals.
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Grapes
Nov 13, 2019 19:57:35 GMT -5
Post by gardendmpls on Nov 13, 2019 19:57:35 GMT -5
As long as there is plenty to go around. I am thinking of Marjorie Rawling's book, The Yearling. That was one of those books that could be read one way by children and another by adults. As an adult, could get that fighting the Civil War left a lot of emotional baggage to deal with, as did homesteading at a time when many children did not survive to adulthood and where one sometimes had to deal with animals, even a loved pet deer, or face starvation. Think I will read the book again over the winter break.
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Grapes
Jan 19, 2020 17:45:02 GMT -5
Post by Wheelgarden on Jan 19, 2020 17:45:02 GMT -5
Finished hard-pruning the grapevines, which I do every few years. Invited my son over to witness, just so I could hear him squawk and squeal about how I was murdering them. He's watched me do it a couple of times before (while squawking and squealing), and seen the good results, yet he persists. Kids...he's 43...they never stop being contrarian, do they?
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Grapes
Jan 24, 2020 15:12:17 GMT -5
Post by James on Jan 24, 2020 15:12:17 GMT -5
It comes down to: Protect what is ours, or go without! Your decision.
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Grapes
Jan 28, 2020 16:00:12 GMT -5
Post by James on Jan 28, 2020 16:00:12 GMT -5
"Balderdash!"
Well go ahead and plant and let the critters have your crop. Your choice!
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Post by Wheelgarden on Jul 1, 2022 14:08:19 GMT -5
Catawba grapes, somewhat gangly (as always), but productive as can be (as always). Not a table grape, but they make really good juice, and wine, if you're so inclined.
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Grapes
Jul 1, 2022 15:15:09 GMT -5
Post by breezygardener on Jul 1, 2022 15:15:09 GMT -5
I have one lone grape planted in a half-whiskey barrel several years ago that continues to hang on despite my neglect. The past two years it's actually produced some grape clusters, but none have yet reached maturity, so I don't know/recall what type it is. From what's available locally, it's either a Green Seedless, Red Seedless, or Concord Seedless; but until any grapes reach maturity, I'll never know. It's definitely a determined vine though - lol!
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Post by Wheelgarden on Sept 16, 2022 17:38:12 GMT -5
The grapes are about at peak sweet ripeness and I want to give them a couple more days...but there are cloven deer hoofprints around. No theft yet, but the race is on.
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