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Post by OregonRed on Mar 30, 2015 10:09:01 GMT -5
the weather here is rather erratic too, tomatos and peppers seem to be the most bothered by it, well and cilantro, it's either too hot or too cold.
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Post by claude on Mar 30, 2015 18:57:42 GMT -5
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Post by ellenr on Mar 31, 2015 3:33:08 GMT -5
"Climate change take hundreds of years." Unfortunately this is not true. Anyone who follows the news would know it. Many people choose not to know. Who am I to tell them to do otherwise.
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Post by brownrexx on Mar 31, 2015 7:27:06 GMT -5
Some people think that climate change (aka global warming) should be obvious to us as a change that we can measure in our back yards. This is not the case unless you happen to be a polar bear who can no longer reach his feeding grounds due to the melting and thus smaller polar ice caps.
Maybe global warming is a misleading term because people expect to see a big temperature rise instead of things like wild temperature swings, the jet stream in a different location than usual and causing colder winters and hotter summers in some places and more severe storms than usual like hurricanes and tornados. .
We haven't seen any of these conditions have we? It must just be a conspiracy to make us use less fossil fuels.
If you didn't do so already, look at the home page on the NASA website. It gives some figures on the vanishing ice cap and forest coverage as well at the fact that the temperature has risen 1.4 degrees since 1880. This sounds small but 1.4 degrees for the entire planet is a really big deal.
Look at that home page - you won't need to read a big article and may be shocked at what is happening. Unless you think that NASA scientists are just part of a big conspiracy that is.
climate.nasa.gov/
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Post by ellenr on Apr 1, 2015 6:14:40 GMT -5
True Brownrexx, Most people no longer use the term global "warming" for the very reason that you say. They use climate change or Climate disruption, or, my preferred, climate chaos. this a good article with peer-reviewed research, including some research from that very radical organization, the US Navy, However, people who are convinced one way will not read anything which presents a different point of view. People who are questioning, might find this article interesting: According to peer-reviewed science, all of the world’s ice is melting at accelerating rates: at Antarctica, at the Arctic, at Greenland, at Patagonia, and at glaciers throughout the world. Antarctica contains 85% of the world’s ice, enough to raise sea levels by 200 feet. as for the arctic: a warming Arctic disrupts weather patterns throughout the Northern Hemisphere, bringing in its wake more extreme, long-duration weather patterns because a warming Arctic alters the atmospheric jet streams, influencing weather patterns. In turn, these extremes include bitter cold spells, torrential storms, and prolonged droughts, all of which likely turn worse the more it heats up. which of course we are already seeing. as far as when, no one really knows, but scientists can estimate based on computer models: "the US Naval Postgraduate School’s Department of Oceanography issued a paper, stating: “Given the estimated trend and the volume estimate for October–November of 2007 at less than 9,000 km³, one can project that at this rate it would take only 9 more years or until 2016 ± 3 years to reach a nearly ice-free Arctic Ocean in summer,” www.counterpunch.org/2015/03/30/apocalyptic-meltdown/
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Post by brownrexx on Apr 1, 2015 7:52:02 GMT -5
Scary stuff.
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Post by claude on Apr 1, 2015 13:22:45 GMT -5
I lived in Florida just out of HS..the storms and shoreline damage were severe...lots of shoreline property has been claimed or shall I say reclaimed by the sea. My husband works for a company that makes water locks among things and areas in Manhattan are using the water locks for the highways that flood like they did the last storm.
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Post by OregonRed on Apr 2, 2015 10:20:32 GMT -5
If I stayed living in Vista Ca, I would have beach front property! ;)
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