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Mar 21, 2015 11:23:10 GMT -5
Post by claude on Mar 21, 2015 11:23:10 GMT -5
Replicator, red ???? When we.started our first compost pit 1980's I remember what a significant difference it made in our family's garbage production. A family of five went from a full rolling garbage can (the big ones that the machine picks up) to a single tall kitchen garbage can bag. It shocked me. Along with recycling cardboard and metal and plastics. That constitutes into dollars and cents. Never mind earth green.
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Mar 21, 2015 14:05:01 GMT -5
Post by OregonRed on Mar 21, 2015 14:05:01 GMT -5
I remember the hydroponics "lab" hehe... didn't come til much later in the years as I recall
Claude: yes, I dated a man that made his life work to reduce reuse recycle etc etc EVERYTHING... he was good! he would love to open his water bill and see if it was less than last month!
it'a amazing, when you make all your meals from scratch, how much basically goes in the compost! I even use my scraps to make broth/stock, etc. moldy bread... and on and on
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Mar 21, 2015 14:10:57 GMT -5
Post by brownrexx on Mar 21, 2015 14:10:57 GMT -5
And if you have chickens, like I do, less veggie scraps make it to the compost pile but then I get chicken poop so it's a good trade.
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Mar 21, 2015 14:13:42 GMT -5
Post by OregonRed on Mar 21, 2015 14:13:42 GMT -5
yep, and I use horse, goat,rabbit and chicken poo IN THE GARDEN - you bet!
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Mar 21, 2015 15:27:31 GMT -5
Post by claude on Mar 21, 2015 15:27:31 GMT -5
Red that was saposto be a smiling happy face....
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Mar 21, 2015 21:36:21 GMT -5
Post by OregonRed on Mar 21, 2015 21:36:21 GMT -5
yep, no worries Claude
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Post by berrygal on Mar 22, 2015 6:58:54 GMT -5
While I agree that many people are disconnected with our food supply and can do MUCH more than what they are currently doing, I also recognize that for some, having a garden big enough to make a significant difference in their food bill isn't possible. If a person lives in, say, a tiny one bedroom apartment with limited windows and no balcony, it would be tough to grow a large # of plants in pots (although community gardens, if nearby, would solve this issue). Others live in an area where homeowners associations ban edibles in their yard (don't get me started on those!). Others have physical disabilities/limitations that render gardening difficult as well. Now, having said that....
...I think many people have the "snob" factor going on when it comes to gardening. For many, that means physical work--and physical work is not a popular pastime in this day and age, unless it's in the disguise of a pricey gym membership. Gardening also means getting their hands and clothes dirty--GERMS! And use yucky poo on the garden that they are going to be EATING things out of?! No way!! People would much rather have a nice manicured lawn because to them, it's a status symbol.
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Mar 22, 2015 9:02:16 GMT -5
Post by SpringRain🕊️ on Mar 22, 2015 9:02:16 GMT -5
BerryGal, yours are very insightful observations, especially those on the "snob" factor and status symbol of lawn. I've never thought of that, and even though I think it's true, I doubt that I would ever understand why something so plain could infer so much status. After all, it doesn't take a genius or a lot of hard work to nurture a lawn in the same way that hard work nurtures a garden. And unless you're strictly an herbivore, who eats grass? I don't!
I also loved your observation about pricey gym memberships - well said! I've never understood the appeal of standing in one place such as on a treadmill and "walking" for miles when the same thing can be done for free just by going outside. That's not even considering how many other people have used the same treadmill, which from my observations from PT have never been cleaned after each use. That's more of a yucky factor for me.
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Mar 22, 2015 9:34:05 GMT -5
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Post by armjr on Mar 22, 2015 9:34:05 GMT -5
HOA and gym members are usually not starving, unless it's self induced. I know folks who live in those places and I suppose it serves their purposes although it would never serve mine. Where you live, for Americans, is really all about choice. For some it's a hard choice to live where they want, for others it's an easy one. Ultimately, those who control good production, control everything. Long after the Monsantos and other agri giants are just a memory, the guy who can tend a plant from seed to fruit will be in high demand.
Alan
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Mar 22, 2015 9:40:53 GMT -5
Post by SpringRain🕊️ on Mar 22, 2015 9:40:53 GMT -5
Where you live, for Americans, is really all about choice. For some it's a hard choice to live where they want, for others it's an easy one. There's also the money factor! Where I'd like to live has always been way beyond my financial resources. That's especially true for older people, and as I creep into that group, I think more and more that I would want to be closer to a good medical center such as those in Ann Arbor, Michigan as opposed to in a nice rural area with a lot of gardening spaces. There are trade-offs and sometimes the choice is a difficult one hinging on monetary issues.
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