Vokar
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Post by Vokar on Jul 15, 2019 16:58:07 GMT -5
pepperhead212 , Did you root it in soil or water? I'm experimenting rooting things in water, this year. I just took a West India burr gherkin cutting today, peppers a few days ago, and tomatoes longer ago (I've since transplanted all the tomato cuttings). Tomatoes seem to root fast, in water (at least this year), when I take cuttings from the garden (and slower for cuttings taken from indoor plants in 2015). It might have something to do with the vigor of the plants before taking cuttings.
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Post by pepperhead212 on Jul 15, 2019 18:20:41 GMT -5
I root them in water, in a cloner, which sprays the cuttings, with a solution. I have rooted pepper cuttings, and almost everything else I have tried in it, but two things that didn't root were the curry tree and kaffir lime tree. And something that seemed to root better in just water, is lemongrass stalks. I buy some stalks at the Asian market in April, about 3 weeks before I plant them, and cut the very end off the root, peel off the dried leaves, and put them in a 2 c container of water, changing every few days. I tried some in the cloner one time, and a couple didn't root, and none rooted as fast as the water rooted ones. Go figure!
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Post by pepperhead212 on Jul 15, 2019 23:37:49 GMT -5
Here's that one that I planted from the cloner - it's a little drooped when I took the photo, but it popped up some, the last I saw it. And you can see the new growth at the base of almost leaf. Cloned epazote, planted 7-15 by pepperhead212, on Flickr
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Post by gardendmpls on Jul 16, 2019 7:12:00 GMT -5
Those leaf holes looked like from slugs or snails, especially where there was some thin tissue left. They rasp off the leaf tissue which can leave thin spots or holes. Had a population explosion of them this year, destroying a lot of the newly set out plants, and had to get iron phosphate bait, something I haven't used in ten years.
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Post by Vokar on Jul 27, 2019 2:03:33 GMT -5
I tasted some epazote a while back, and I love it. I can totally imagine it with beans. I hope to grow more of it, and a lot. tom π , gardendmpls , I saw what was laying those eggs, at long last. It wasn't moths. I saw a white butterfly land and lay an egg just like those I saw earlier. They've been laying eggs on other stuff, too, though, such as kohlrahbi, and I think lambsquarter; maybe even on tomatoes (and I haven't been seeing their caterpillars for some unknown reason). It could be unrelated to the holes, again, though, especially as I haven't been seeing lots of new holes. I agree that it looks like slug damage. It is a little dry for slugs where the horseradish is, and I don't see any slime trails, but I know slugs are sometimes adventurous in dry areas at night. Maybe slugs could explain some things I haven't accounted for. I know we can get slugs on our sorrel, and they make similar holes. I've been eating the leaves myself. They're really good on sandwiches. They're spicier in the summer. They taste like hot radishes and horseradish mixed together. Eating them on a sandwich with cheese pretty much eliminates the spiciness, interestingly, but plain, it can burn the nose.
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Post by gardendmpls on Jul 27, 2019 21:29:14 GMT -5
There are two kinds of cabbage white butterflies. The large one has larger caterpillars that will form a group that defoliates the plants. The smaller has green caterpillars that blend in well, hide in the plant's center and live more individually. On the site below, you can click on the pictures for a good look. I would have a hard time spotting these with their coloration. bigbughunt.com/bug-guides/uk-and-europe/cabbage-white-butterfly/
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Post by tom π on Aug 18, 2019 17:03:25 GMT -5
How many of you grow epazote, or look for it in the weed patches I found a plant that I think is epazote (like the picture Vokar posted) and added two of its lower leaves to a leftover kidney bean - eggplant soup on warming it up today. It gave the soup a sweet and perfumey flavor, maybe somewhat like cardamon. I'll use this plant in the future.
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Post by Vokar on Aug 19, 2019 16:33:39 GMT -5
I hear the seeds are quite toxic, and so only the leaves should be used. I should check to see how true that is some time. How do you save seeds for this? Is it easy? Just for the record, I want to grow this every year. I wonder if the red kind tastes exactly the same. Here are a couple updated pictures of the plant I'm growing:
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Post by Vokar on Aug 19, 2019 16:34:36 GMT -5
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Post by pepperhead212 on Aug 19, 2019 19:12:30 GMT -5
They're doing well, Vokar , in about 6 locations, so I'll see if the red epazote re-seeds anywhere. I'll cut some and root them, and save the best one for the hydro in the off-season. It looks like you have the pest problem under control!
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Post by tom π on Aug 24, 2019 13:07:23 GMT -5
Tried epazote on fish. Interesting. This plant has potential. I read that it's also use on corn dishes.
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Post by pepperhead212 on Aug 24, 2019 15:34:34 GMT -5
Bayless was one of the first CB authors that I saw use epazote in large amounts - not just a sprig in pots of beans, and things like that. He'd add it at the end, like with cilantro - sometimes up to 1/4 c - and the flavor was incredible. That's what got me growing it!
I have to scratch some seeds of the red epazote into a spot in my herb bed, and see if it comes up in the spring. The green stuff used to re-seed every year, but I haven't seen this variety do that. Maybe its seeds just aren't cold hardy. Doesn't matter to me, since I take a cutting indoors, then a bunch outside next season, but it would be nice to know. And the green seeds aren't super cold hardy, as I used to have a patch of it behind my shed, along with garlic chives and other weeds, and it came back every year, with no work on my part. But one super cold winter killed it off, and not one plant came up the next year.
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Post by Vokar on Sept 28, 2019 9:40:57 GMT -5
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Post by pepperhead212 on Sept 28, 2019 11:22:48 GMT -5
Vokar I don't think epazote can handle frost. Mine is going to seed already, and by the time it frosts, there won't be much to harvest. Right now, I have some cuttings in my cloner, to root for the hydroponics.
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Post by Vokar on Sept 28, 2019 11:26:41 GMT -5
pepperhead212, Mine is going to seed, too. I don't know if the seeds are formed, yet, or if it still needs to bloom. How long does it take once you start to notice that it's going to seed?
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