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Post by davidjp on Aug 14, 2016 23:04:38 GMT -5
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Post by jobet on Aug 15, 2016 2:52:00 GMT -5
Actually never tried the above but am sure its good Thanks davidjp. This looks like a veggie I'd really like. Will have to give it a try. And you just introduced me to another seed company I wasn't aware of.
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Post by Mumsey on Aug 15, 2016 4:42:26 GMT -5
I got the Perpetual Spinach from Rare Seeds or Pinetree Seeds. I would have to dig the package out to see.
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Post by restless on Aug 15, 2016 8:46:21 GMT -5
I also like the Perpetual Spinach variety of Swiss Chard. The seeds are available at Baker Creek.
Swiss Chard is by far my favorite green. I plant enough of it so the slow down over the hottest days of summer does not mean that I don't have enough chard to eat. That does mean, however, during the spring, early summer, and fall, I am absolutely BESET with Swiss Chard.
I also think Swiss Chard of all varieties is very ornamental. I plant it intermixed with flowers in the front yard veggie garden. I harvest it "cut and come again" style by just harvesting the outer leaves of each plant.
I have grown several varieties: Fordhook, Perpetual Spinach, Ruby Red, Magenta Sunset, and the mix of varieties known as Rainbow Chard. I like them all equally well. Greens are one of my favorite vegetables and I eat all kinds, including the tops of vegetables that others might discard: Kohlrabi, Brussels Sprouts, Turnips, Radishes, Broccoli Leaves, etc.
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Post by jobet on Aug 15, 2016 9:03:44 GMT -5
Greens are one of my favorite vegetables and I eat all kinds, including the tops of vegetables that others might discard: Kohlrabi, Brussels Sprouts, Turnips, Radishes, Broccoli Leaves, etc. Meeeeee toooooo! Eat greens every single day. I also love beet tops. Not sure if I'll ever get decent beets because I'll be munching the tops off! I was always told that carrot tops are poison, but read recently that people do eat them. Do you eat carrot tops restless? Swiss chard is another veggie I simply cannot wait to grow. Love it! The good thing for me is in the community garden if I grow too much the excess will go to the Community Table to feed other people.
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Post by lilolpeapicker on Aug 15, 2016 9:56:52 GMT -5
Since I had leaf miner problems here will they overwinter in the pot? Do I need to change out the soil to use it again, for anything? I was reading about them and the article said the chard /spinach should be covered with a net.
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Post by restless on Aug 15, 2016 10:17:13 GMT -5
lilolpeapicker , I am in zone 7 and Swiss Chard of any variety has never overwintered for me. I'm not sure why, but it doesn't. By spring it's just frozen sludge all the way down to the last root. (I don't try to protect them or mulch them or anything. Maybe if I did, they would overwinter.) jobet , yes, I eat carrot tops. It's not poison. Carrot leaves can be quite tough in texture if you are harvesting a fully grown carrot. I don't eat them in great quantity, but I love to make chimichurri out of them instead of the traditional parsley leaves. There are many recipes available on line. It's a nice condiment good on anything. It's a traditional condiment for grilled meats in Argentina. I use it on veggies and beans.
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Post by lilolpeapicker on Aug 15, 2016 11:18:16 GMT -5
restless sorry for confusion, meant would the leaf miner overwinter in that pot and should I change out the soil to use it for anything? I did many pots this year so thinking ahead to next year. And next year while it grows, I plan on netting it to combat the leaf miner damage as I was reading online about. I guess I will look up the cycle of the leaf miner.
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Post by restless on Aug 15, 2016 11:50:57 GMT -5
lilolpeapicker, yes, leaf miner fly pupae overwinter in the soil and emerge as adult flies in the following spring. You should replace the soil. I have also read that the larva (maggots), inside the leaves, will live in a compost pile. I assume the pupae would as well, although I haven't looked that up specifically since my land lord does not allow me to compost.
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Post by pepperhead212 on Dec 1, 2016 0:25:33 GMT -5
I harvested some shogoin today (actually, tonight). Not one of the most common greens, but it is grown more for the turnip like root, which grows at least half above ground. I made a delicious curry, using the greens and the root, which was almost 4" in diameter.
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Post by Mumsey on Dec 1, 2016 6:17:21 GMT -5
I did quite alot of seed shopping on ebay this week. Found the Perpetual Spinach there. I always look for things with free shipping, unless it's a low flat rate for purchasing several items from the same seller. This is one I ordered from this year. Flat rate shipping, plus 20% off orders over $5.00. Cabbage seeds for $1, they list germination rates as well. Most are around 90%. stores.ebay.com/Florida-Heirloom-Seeds?_trksid=p2047675.l2563<object type="application/x-KPMPlugin" id="kpm_plugin"></object> <object type="application/x-KPMPlugin" id="kpm_plugin"></object>
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Post by James on Dec 2, 2016 12:48:28 GMT -5
Quote: "Here I grew the black seeded simpson, red sails and butter crunch lettuces, arugula as well as kale, spinach and swiss chard."
Those you mention are excellent you might add: Broccoli, cabbage, Brussels Sprouts, Beet Greens, peas.
The new Pinetree catalog lists lettuces I have never heard of.
I have never had any luck here with head lettuces, so I plant the leaf types. Red Romaine and Black Seeded Simpson have done well here.
I do know I need to plant it early. Lettuce is a cool weather crop.
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Post by Wheelgarden on Jun 28, 2020 15:03:01 GMT -5
Grew a "test plot" of tatsoi this past spring, and it did so well --- and was so well-liked --- that I'm growing a bunch more this fall. Big meaty leaves, and nary a problem with insects. Given my weird inability to grow spinach, this seems a great alternative. I've let the remaining spring planting bolt, to gather seeds later.
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Post by pepperhead212 on Jun 28, 2020 15:27:25 GMT -5
Wheelgarden Tatsoi may grow the entire winter in your area, as it was the most cold resistant of all of those Asian greens I've grown, resistant to almost 20°. And it was also the quickest to grow back, after it died back. If you are saving seeds, be sure no other brassicas are flowering nearby, as they cross very easily.
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Post by Wheelgarden on Jun 28, 2020 15:45:28 GMT -5
Thanks, pepperhead212, good to know. My winters are increasingly mild as time goes on, plus I have hooping available if needed. Good to know about the crossing threat, too.
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