yeatster
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Post by yeatster on Apr 12, 2019 19:33:14 GMT -5
I started 2 varieties of tomatoes and bell peppers, indoors, a couple weeks ago (didnt hou down the date) my tomato seedlings look terrible and peppers havent sprouted yet. I may have kept them too wet. Any advice would be appreciated.
Should I start some more for insurance?
Hmmm, cant seem to find an option for photos
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Post by binnylou on Apr 12, 2019 19:44:49 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum, yeatster. Depending on your location, you may still have time to try starting more tomatoes nd peppers. What is your growing conditions for your tomato plant? And remember, peppers like warmth. I now use a heat mat to sprout most of my starts, especially the peppers.
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yeatster
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Post by yeatster on Apr 12, 2019 19:54:38 GMT -5
Welcome to the forum, yeatster. Depending on your location, you may still have time to try starting more tomatoes nd peppers. What is your growing conditions for your tomato plant? And remember, peppers like warmth. I now use a heat mat to sprout most of my starts, especially the peppers. Hank you for the welcome! I'm in eastern Massachusetts They are in a closet with cob led about 4' from light which is on a 20/4 cycle. Temps are 80°ish high and gets as low as 65 briefly. RH is very low, 30-40's. Seedlings live in peat caps with Promix BX. I wanted to get heat mats, for other germing, but omg they are so exfarming, The "others" are mostly herbs and kept near the window in a 72 cell starter tray. Temps aren't optimal for those but I put extra and said a Novena.
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Post by tom 🕊 on Apr 12, 2019 20:03:40 GMT -5
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Post by desertwoman on Apr 12, 2019 20:35:41 GMT -5
yeatster, Peppers are slow to germinate and they really benefit from being on a heat mat at least until they've popped up. I usually keep them there longer. You said they are exfarming/ Did you mean expensive? You can use heating pads, strings of those tiny christmas lights also put them in any warm place- on top of a water heater or frig or some other creative solution. You say your tomato plants are 4' from the grow light? That's too far away. The light needs to be a few inches above your seedlings
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Post by SpringRain🕊️ on Apr 12, 2019 22:43:38 GMT -5
Hank you for the welcome! I'm in eastern Massachusetts They are in a closet with cob led about 4' from light which is on a 20/4 cycle. Temps are 80°ish high and gets as low as 65 briefly. RH is very low, 30-40's. Seedlings live in peat caps with Promix BX. yeatster, I echo desertwoman's advice on light distance from the seedlings. I also think 80 is a bit high; but bottom heat is welcome and probably better to generate the seeds to sprout and create roots. I'm wondering also about aeration, if they're in a closet. I've always kept seedlings in open spaces so air can circulate. But don't give up! There's a learning curve to probably everything, especially starting plants from seed.
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Vokar
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Post by Vokar on Apr 12, 2019 23:38:29 GMT -5
Yeah, air circulation is important. It helps to prevent disease and edema. Plus, it helps keep the room dry (I had black mold develop in the room where I had my growing environment, after it had been there a good while, but had I had a fan going, that probably would not have happened). You'll want as much light as you can get, pretty much.
Using a heat mat, or keeping the room decently warm (not super hot) can help the plants to grow faster.
I got tired of growlights and the humidity from my growing environment being indoors. So, I got one of those inexpensive tent-like greenhouses (which I don't heat), and I start my seeds outdoors to get free light, and to free up space indoors. You can grow plants faster indoors with growlights, though, but mine have been healthier outdoors. I imagine if I heated the greenhouse, the plants would grow super fast. I'm not sure what your seed-starting mix is like, but I've found that my seedlings in my mix appreciate a little bit of wood ash (you can sprinkle a little on top and water it in). It adds a lot of trace nutrients (small amounts, but readily available), and seems to make plants green and strong. Anyway, don't overdo it. A little bit is all it takes.
Were I to grow indoors now, I'd probably use an ionizer, too. I hear plants like negative ions (although I'm not sure how true it is). They're supposed to help keep pathogens out of the air, too.
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yeatster
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Post by yeatster on Apr 13, 2019 4:26:22 GMT -5
yeatster, Peppers are slow to germinate and they really benefit from being on a heat mat at least until they've popped up. I usually keep them there longer. You said they are exfarming/ Did you mean expensive? You can use heating pads, strings of those tiny christmas lights also put them in any warm place- on top of a water heater or frig or some other creative solution. You say your tomato plants are 4' from the grow light? That's too far away. The light needs to be a few inches above your seedlings I'm sorry, I did mean expensive. I considered a radiator but feared it could get too hot. X-mas lights = genius. The fridge is also a great idea, I'll do that now! The lights...I am not using flourecent bulbs. I used to have a T-5 and wish I still did for seedlings (future purchase when funds available) I assure you, my light (cob LED) is very intense. A couple inches would fry seedlings in a couple hours. I am new to vegetables and organics but I have been growing medical mj since my mother got the big C a couple years ago. The closet, I use for seedlings and veg. It us set up with proper ventilation and air circulation. 4" exhaust fan leading to my flower tent and a tower fan hung vertically for air circulation, also a vent near the floor for passive intake. This is my first time trying to build a soil. I gathered some ingredients and mixed but I may need help fixing it, if you or someone was inclined to help. THIS is the overwhelming part. I really wish I could upload pics. I dont even see a link to upload one. Do I need to up my posts before I can share images?
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yeatster
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Post by yeatster on Apr 13, 2019 4:32:52 GMT -5
Hank you for the welcome! I'm in eastern Massachusetts They are in a closet with cob led about 4' from light which is on a 20/4 cycle. Temps are 80°ish high and gets as low as 65 briefly. RH is very low, 30-40's. Seedlings live in peat caps with Promix BX. yeatster, I echo desertwoman's advice on light distance from the seedlings. I also think 80 is a bit high; but bottom heat is welcome and probably better to generate the seeds to sprout and create roots. I'm wondering also about aeration, if they're in a closet. I've always kept seedlings in open spaces so air can circulate. But don't give up! There's a learning curve to probably everything, especially starting plants from seed. Thank you! I hope I've cleared the light issue up with my last response. I chose organic non gmo seeds from Clear Creek Seeds because I wanted this to be as clean as possible, knowing everything that's going into it will help me sleep at night. Its difficult finding products to trust and I feel like pesticides are more than likely laced in veggies already started from Wally World, Home Depot & such. Thanks again, much appreciated.
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yeatster
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Post by yeatster on Apr 13, 2019 4:39:10 GMT -5
yeatster, Peppers are slow to germinate and they really benefit from being on a heat mat at least until they've popped up. I usually keep them there longer. You said they are exfarming/ Did you mean expensive? You can use heating pads, strings of those tiny christmas lights also put them in any warm place- on top of a water heater or frig or some other creative solution. You say your tomato plants are 4' from the grow light? That's too far away. The light needs to be a few inches above your seedlings I'm sorry, I did mean expensive. I considered a radiator but feared it could get too hot. X-mas lights = genius. The fridge is also a great idea, I'll do that now! The lights...I am not using flourecent bulbs. I used to have a T-5 and wish I still did for seedlings (future purchase when funds available) I assure you, my light (cob LED) is very intense. A couple inches would fry seedlings in a couple hours. I am new to vegetables and organics but I have been growing medical mj since my mother got the big C a couple years ago. The closet, I use for seedlings and veg. It us set up with proper ventilation and air circulation. 4" exhaust fan leading to my flower tent and a tower fan hung vertically for air circulation, also a vent near the floor for passive intake. This is my first time trying to build a soil. I gathered some ingredients and mixed but I may need help fixing it, if you or someone was inclined to help. THIS is the overwhelming part. I really wish I could upload pics. I dont even see a link to upload one. Do I need to up my posts before I can share images? I would love to start outdoors! Unfortunately the weather here in Massachusetts doesnt give me much time to do so. The plan is to start them indoors then put them in pots outdoors. I live in the city and share a yard with pets and kids so I am gonna line pots in my driveway. Hahaha. I'm not working either much but I know it can work. Thank you for your time, I really do appreciate you guys. One love
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yeatster
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Post by yeatster on Apr 13, 2019 5:21:10 GMT -5
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yeatster
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Post by yeatster on Apr 13, 2019 5:24:18 GMT -5
Managed to provide a link image for 1 seedling Note from DW: I converted your link to an actual image in your post. yeatster, The *Add Image to Post* button is at bottom left of Quick Reply box and it's at top right in the Blue Reply button box.
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Post by desertwoman on Apr 13, 2019 9:00:56 GMT -5
There are instructions for posting pics from a computer in the * Helpful Tips* board (very bottom of the list) organicgroup.freeforums.net/thread/3308/posting-photosIf you are using a mobile device to post pics, the instructions are a little different. See Steve's instructions on page 2
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Post by desertwoman on Apr 14, 2019 22:16:27 GMT -5
I would love to start outdoors! Unfortunately the weather here in Massachusetts doesnt give me much time to do so. The plan is to start them indoors then put them in pots outdoors. Most of us have to start indoors. My official last frost date is May 15, but most years we get a late frost end of May or early June, so I don't permanently move mine out doors until the first week in June.
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Post by desertwoman on Apr 14, 2019 22:20:34 GMT -5
This is my first time trying to build a soil. I gathered some ingredients and mixed but I may need help fixing it, if you or someone was inclined to help. THIS is the overwhelming part. Soil is the key- and the foundation- to successful organic growing. Trial and error and one step at a time will get you there. If I'm reading correctly, you are going to grow your veggies in pots? There are some here who are very experienced with growing in pots, earthtainers and earth boxes. So ask questions and others will chime in.
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