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Post by reuben on Nov 20, 2018 16:39:36 GMT -5
Romaine lettuce is unsafe to eat in any form, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Tuesday in a broad alert in response to a new outbreak of illnesses caused by a particularly dangerous type of E. coli contamination.
The CDC told consumers to throw away any romaine lettuce they may already have purchased. Restaurants should not serve it, stores should not sell it, and people should not buy it, no matter where or when the lettuce was grown. It doesn’t matter if it is chopped, whole head or part of a mix. All romaine should be avoided.
The CDC alert, issued just two days before Americans sit down for their Thanksgiving dinners, reported that 32 people in 11 states have become sick from eating contaminated romaine. Of those, 13 have been hospitalized, with one patient suffering from a form of kidney failure. The Public Health Agency of Canada has reported 18 people infected with the same strain of E. coli.
No deaths have been reported.
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Post by tom 🕊 on Nov 20, 2018 17:27:02 GMT -5
Do you know which states? Edit: CA, IL, WI, MI, OH, NY, NH, MA, CT, NJ, MD. |
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Post by reuben on Nov 20, 2018 17:48:11 GMT -5
Do you know which states? Edit: CA, IL, WI, MI, OH, NY, NH, MA, CT, NJ, MD. No, I do not. But the health notice has spread to Canada. Read the links. Draw your own conclusions. www.canada.ca/en/public-health/services/public-health-notices/2018/outbreak-ecoli-infections-linked-romaine-lettuce.html |
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Post by pepperhead212 on Nov 20, 2018 18:38:14 GMT -5
They said anywhere. Not enough info yet to figure exactly where it came from, and what to recall. That list of states is where people have already gotten sick from it.
Glad my lettuce seeds just germinated! lol
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Post by SpringRain🕊️ on Nov 20, 2018 21:37:18 GMT -5
Just heard the announcement on local tv this evening. I've been eating red leaf lettuce all week, but apparently it's just the Romaine that's affected.
Also read that it's unclear yet where the lettuce came from, but probably US or Canada, as if that really narrows it down.
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Post by binnylou on Nov 23, 2018 9:57:04 GMT -5
This is getting expensive. I had two packs of Romaine/3 heads per pack with only one used. And a clamshell of organic mix. Trashed them...$9.50 tossed. Don't even want to compost it.
I swear I'm gonna drag out the grow lights and start growing in the laundry room.
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Post by pepperhead212 on Nov 23, 2018 11:32:01 GMT -5
binnylou I usually have leaf lettuce under the lights ready to harvest in 25 days after planting the seeds. And eventually, just 2 plants puts out more than I can use, but I keep cutting it anyway. Friends come over, and I often give them the bag of lettuce in the fridge.
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Post by Mumsey on Nov 24, 2018 4:28:24 GMT -5
My grow lights are idle......I'm thinking I should start some lettuce. Romaine takes quite a while to get big enough to eat, maybe I'll invest in some leaf lettuce seeds.
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Post by reuben on Nov 24, 2018 5:50:31 GMT -5
My grow lights are idle......I'm thinking I should start some lettuce. Romaine takes quite a while to get big enough to eat, maybe I'll invest in some leaf lettuce seeds. This is the time of year when my grow lights are most active. Starting seedlings for the winter garden, and eventually, seedlings for spring planting. I've got about 15 or 20 seedlings of various types in the ground, and about 10 under the lights. I'll take the covers off the ones outside today since it will get above freezing, and it's going to rain. |
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Post by Mumsey on Nov 24, 2018 6:47:33 GMT -5
reuben, Too cold here to do any growing outside in Winter. I get onions going end of January. Everything else is March/April. But I could eat the lettuce grown indoors!
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Post by reuben on Nov 24, 2018 12:03:24 GMT -5
maybe I'll invest in some leaf lettuce seeds. Black Seeded Simpson and Red Sails are my favorites, although I'm trying some new ones like Cherokee and Magenta. Might add an oakleaf lettuce back into the mix in the spring. |
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Post by binnylou on Nov 24, 2018 12:05:55 GMT -5
Is there a decrease in nutritional value...sunshine vs grow lights? Any thoughts?
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Post by reuben on Nov 24, 2018 13:09:01 GMT -5
I'll bet that sunshine is always better. It is, after all, what plants have "grown" used to for millions and billions of years. As far as artificial lights, it depends on how well they produce the solar spectrum. They may be missing certain critical bands, or lack proportionality among the wavelengths. Somewhere there's a thread I chimed in on about what wavelengths are needed at various stages, halogen/fluorescent/etc. Found it - organicgroup.freeforums.net/thread/1634/led-lights-seed-startingIf you're just growing seedlings for transplants you don't need full spectrum lights. The red band is more for helping to set blossoms/fruit, which isn't applicable for seedlings (typically these are some sort of sodium bulb). So if you're just growing some seedlings for transplant, you can use lights which are somewhat deficient in the red and infrared portion of the spectrum, and probably less expensive as well. But if you want those plants to set blossoms and fruit, you'll need full spectrum. |
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Post by pepperhead212 on Nov 24, 2018 19:00:28 GMT -5
Remember that many plants have evolved to grow in the shade, thus the full sun is not necessary. While they grow lettuces in full sun in commercial settings, it seems to do better with shade, at least in my garden. So the lower lighting of the grow lights doesn't seem to bother mine.
I planted one pot of that unknown "saved seed" (it was in a mix, and grew longerbinto the summer the last two years, than even Black Seeded Simpson) of mine, which grew great indoors last year, and a BSS, to see how it does indoors.
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Post by Mumsey on Nov 24, 2018 19:24:10 GMT -5
Romaine has fallen. Caesar is dead. Lettuce pray.  I'd say any lettuce grown yourself is better than what you can buy, regardless of the nutritional value. |
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