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Post by Mumsey on Feb 4, 2018 7:50:26 GMT -5
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Post by lilolpeapicker on Feb 4, 2018 9:32:54 GMT -5
Thx Mumsey, This is great. I see most of the countries ban are on the GMO maize 810 crop but Italy and Switzerland have a broader ban. And that countries around the world are following suit. Hooray for them! If the crops are non GMO I would think those coming in would be fine but I believe you have to watch which are affected by the bans. Good look here
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Post by desertwoman on Feb 4, 2018 9:52:23 GMT -5
This is so encouraging. And It looks to be a growing movement in the right direction. Now to keep educating folks here in the U.S.....
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Post by lilolpeapicker on Feb 4, 2018 9:56:20 GMT -5
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Post by Mumsey on Feb 7, 2018 5:22:53 GMT -5
lilolpeapicker, desertwoman, It's a slow movement. Interesting experience yesterday. I saw in Hy-Vee's monthly ad that they have Left Field GMO-Free milk. I looked for it last week at a couple stores. They looked at me like I was crazy. Found it yesterday. An employee said "it's over in the Health Market". I told him it's not organic why would it be there.? He insisted it was organic. Finally found it. No where on the label does it say organic. Got the produce manager and asked him why it's in the Health Market when it isn't organic. He studied the label, then said, it's over here because they ran out of room in the dairy case. He also said it's not selling well and he probably won't order it again. I reminded him that it's not selling well because it's not in the right place, most people don't even look at organic! He said it's not profitable to sell only 1 and throw away the rest. I said, well it is profitable if you consider that you helped one person, money aside. He chuckled. I told him I understand marketing schemes and money is what makes the wheel turn. If you hide things from customers, then it isn't going to sell and is probably something you didn't want in the store in the first place.......We then got into a discussion about GMOs. I could go on and on.
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Post by reuben on Feb 7, 2018 9:18:52 GMT -5
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Post by lilolpeapicker on Feb 7, 2018 9:57:39 GMT -5
Mumsey , desertwoman , reuben , I have read similar things about Aurora and Horizon Organic problems before...Have been staying away from these products for a while. I have been getting the Organic Valley brand as well but there is another called Wholesome Pantry I was getting but now I read it is organicish...what the heck does that mean, I am afraid to find out. It is a product of ShopRite, a supermarket here in my area as well as other areas.
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Post by desertwoman on Feb 7, 2018 10:11:52 GMT -5
I, too, heard similar things about Horizon many years ago. We only buy Organic Valley dairy and eggs. Good job Mumsey, planting those seeds of educating.
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Post by reuben on Feb 7, 2018 11:23:58 GMT -5
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Post by lilolpeapicker on Feb 7, 2018 14:07:15 GMT -5
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Post by desertwoman on Feb 7, 2018 15:42:05 GMT -5
I haven't even heard of any of the companies in the Outstanding scorecard list. Glad to see Organic Valley is in the Excellent (if not outstanding) rating as it's the primary supplier here.
Thanks for these links reuben
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Post by Mumsey on Feb 8, 2018 5:19:59 GMT -5
Who Owns Organic? In my mind this opens up a whole new area for speculation.......are these big conventional companies going to do away with the "Organic" aspect of products once they have their hands on scarfing up smaller companies...... Suspicious Minds we have, well, I do anyway.
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Post by desertwoman on Feb 8, 2018 10:17:55 GMT -5
.are these big conventional companies going to do away with the "Organic" aspect of products once they have their hands on scarfing up smaller companies or at least water the organic aspect down. When we certified the orchard, we saw the writing on the wall. Our standards were higher than the new Fed standards that were starting to be pushed for and were even higher than the New Mexico state standards (which were higher than the new proposed Fed ones). The NM state regulations were some of the best at that time and we were -and still are- against having Federal organic regulations. A lot of smaller pieces- i.e. multiple state regulations- makes it harder for the various companies to weaken/dissemble organics. If it's all under one Federal umbrella- much easier to water down.
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Post by Mumsey on Feb 8, 2018 18:14:11 GMT -5
desertwoman, Absolutely. And when you consider the Monsanto top dogs that now work at FDA.......freakin' scary.
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Post by restless on Feb 9, 2018 9:44:56 GMT -5
I buy locally and directly from Seven Stars and Kimberton Farms. I also do all my non farmer's market shopping at MOM's Organic Market. The Seven Stars plain yogurt is out of this world good. I don't eat it unless it is in labneh or raita form. I'm not a huge dairy consumer. My husband eats yogurt and drinks milk daily. Seven Stars also doesn't de-horn their dairy cows, which I think is great.
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